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Simon said...
Why should science worry about gods, Martin? If scientists started trying to squeeze gods into things, we'd be going back about 1000 years.

In the long and winding road of scientific progress, not one step has been taken by religion.

From talking to various Christians, Christianity seems to be about general self-loathing and mistrust of humanity. Being brought up in a Christian society, we're given a sense of guilt about natural body functions and insticts and so we grow up feeling bad about ourselves and with a desire to "repent".

Isn't it all about feeling bad because you fancied your mate's wife, or pigged-out on a meal, or lay on the sofa watching TV all day, or wished your bullying boss would drop dead? - all things which are relatively harmless.

The picture came from a google image search. Horrible, isn't it?


Martin Lack said...
"In the long and winding road of scientific progress, not one step has been taken by religion.".... If it was not for the Christian concept of a rational God, western civilisation/science would not have developed the way it has.

"From talking to various Christians, Christianity seems to be about general self-loathing... all things which are relatively harmless.".... Most of the world's belief systems acknowledge that no-one is perfect; most conceive God as perfect and/or just. Religions are imperfect man's ideas about how to make himself acceptable to such a perfect God.

Therefore Christianity is not a religion, since its central point is that we cannot make ourselves perfect and so should not make ourselves miserable trying; just be grateful that God has solved the problem.


Simon said...
Martin, what gives you the idea the Christian god is any more rational than the others?

"Therefore Christianity is not a religion, since its central point is that we cannot make ourselves perfect and so should not make ourselves miserable trying; just be grateful that God has solved the problem."

So Christianity isn't a religion. Well, I learn something new every day.

Football and Fosters

I must come clean and admit I did not send you a postcard from our recent 3112-mile round trip to Venice (but don't feel miffed; we only sent them to close family this year). This was really fantastic; a drive through - or rather over - the Alps comes highly recommended; it is "ahhhssohm", as our American friends would say.

Anyway, although we came back with over 100 bottles of wine and about 6 litres of spirits (that's us sorted for another year), I did not get any beer!

What a dreadful omission, I hear you say... Well, I have just been checking beer prices in Morrisons this lunchtime, and 24x440ml cans of Fosters for £12 was the best I could find; which is just a little over £1.10/litre (about the same as you'd pay in Calais I think.

So, while it lasts; enjoy the football and the Fosters (I will),

Martin.